Daniel Labude

We aren't very good vs offspeed pitches, especially changeups. Need to battle

Until his swing is fixed we should see more of this, at least vs tough lefties

Jansen swings at ball 4 and ball 5 striking out

Circus defense gives up another run lol

2 games...2 runs from bad D from him

Kiermaier's defense has been awful since the break. Need that consistent stellar defense again

July 16 Bichette - 1 Point - Vladdy - 2 Points - LTBF Springer - 2 Points - Chapman - 3 Points - WryNGinger Jansen - 3 Points - JaysAllMighty Kirk - 4 Points - Merrifield - 6 Points - Kiermaier - 7 Points - Espinal - 7 Points - Off the bench: 10 Points -

What did I miss?

Love getting Varsho, but seems the Jays have completely broken his bat and are building it back. Tough going this season, but hopefully better in the long run maybe Still hate losing Moreno

I would take the Witt side

Did Adams tell someone F U when Vlad was batting. Looked like his dugout

Our catcher of the future.....

Longoria still playing great defense. 109 MPH and he catches it and spins to get the double play

Vlad for me

You went off into left field with most of this so I'll bring it back Yes I am aware of how statistics are created and continuously worked on Its more than a feeling If you remove or fix positional adjustment and how defensive value is determined there would be a significant change in the WAR values I get it, you don't agree with the core concepts, but the issues at hand have been documented. I have already said currently its the best we have. It 100% will change in the future and 1B value will see a significant increase depending on how it changes

As was I. Good to see though. Hell of a player this year. One of the best offensive and defensive players

The issue is, everything is an estimate basically, WAR is flawed in so many ways its hard to count. Its well documented from the way its calculated, to the variables that go into it, to how its used by the industry and by fans. It isn't the end all be all metric. Thinking critically on how it is wrong and what can be done better is the foundation of statistical improvement. Positional adjustments need to be changed fundamentally, defensive calculations need so much more detail, etc. Again at the end of the day WAR is the best we have at the moment, doesn't mean it is great or the final word. The view on 1B and even the details of other positions get lost and trivialized to run fast catch ball amazing. I dont follow that mindset. There are and will be better ways to come in the future and I maintain 1B defense will be a key shift in the metrics. Like always I will agree to disagree. Good discussions though As I mentioned above, the pathway to statistical improvement comes with challenging the status quo, especially one that has the documented flaws of WAR. No one believes they are smarter, well I dont. Im just willing to put forth my thoughts and opinions that challenge the hive. The comedic gold is how unopen you are to hearing viewpoints that differ from yours and how you are the definition of what is wrong with WAR at its core. You take it and your opinions/thoughts as gospel. No openness to the rest of the world. Trust me, there is a whole world out there waiting to teach you some day. Just open your eyes and accept people can have different views, opinions, and ideas. You don't even have to change your thoughts or ideas or opinions. Just listen and acknowledge some things aren't set in stone

The picking and scooping should definitely be more valued than it is...by a lot imo

So with Romano leaving hurt...Pearson set to be closer if needed I guess

There is no better system yet, that part I agree with. Maybe someday. Still worth pointing out the flaws and negatives of it to get a better context from time to time

Partly, but there is still a default boost just for the position, which is where the problem is. There should be none. It should be soley actual value based on play. Then how defensive value is scored is flawed as well, it all comes together lol

Put Kirk in CF and Kirk at 1B, to the team which position would he have more defensive value? To WAR, in CF he gets super boosted though he never makes a play there lmao

Positional adjustments are insanely stupid and more people will come to this realization in the future

Had this one nailed. Glad they went with 1 of the top 2. Arjun should be a really good one with a great story. I really wanted to see the Jays make Waldrep a star with that split, but ATL is a good spot for him as well hopefully