Ok, bottom line.. Do you choose Estrada or Doubront to start in a must win game? The fact that you guys are looking for valid statistical facts to back a Doubront argument just shows you like to argue period. Estrada has the lower contact rate and the better swstr%. With both having the same service time, Estrada has made out much better financially, so i guess you can say the Brewers and the Jays orgs are just plain dumb.