That's not the point, forget about what the offence did or didn't do after the score was 4-2. You guys preach mathematical probabilities here all the time but in this case it doesn't apply? It would be different if the pen was spent, but it wasn't, with a day off the next day to boot. Also, what's wrong with expecting to keep the Phillies offence in check with a Hendricks / Lowe combo taking us to the latter innings? Do you have Schultz up higher than those two on the depth chart? If so, then I understand why you feel Gibby did nothing wrong.