Dr. Dinger

That's a narrow and useless definition. So Devon Travis doesn't count as a homegrown talent, even though he's only ever played MLB games for the Blue Jays? This is a semantic argument. We have an elite offense. Whether we drafted those players or acquired them via pitchers we drafted is completely immaterial.

WTF are you talking about? Encarnacion and Bautista are two of the most elite hitters of the decade, and they were nobodies before they were Blue Jays. That is homegrown.

Here's a new report on Urena: Richard Urena [TABLE=class: info, width: 354] [TR] [TD]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/images/headshot_101996.jpg[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Born: 02/26/1996 (Age: 20)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bats: Switch[/TD] [TD]Throws: Right[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Height: 6' 0"[/TD] [TD]Weight: 185[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Primary Position: SS[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=colspan: 2]Secondary Position:[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: mechanics, width: 62%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Physical/Health[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium frame, lean, slender body, evenly proportioned; still quite young, room to add additional muscle[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: evaluator, width: 36%] [TR] [TD=class: header]Evaluator[/TD] [TD]Steve Givarz[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Report Date[/TD] [TD]07/22/2016[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Dates Seen[/TD] [TD]6/23-6/25/2016, 6/27/2016[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: header]Affiliate[/TD] [TD]Dunedin Blue Jays (High A, Blue Jays)[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: repertoire, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD=align: center]MLB ETA[/TD] [TD=align: center]Risk Factor[/TD] [TD=align: center]OFP[/TD] [TD=align: center]Realistic Role[/TD] [TD=align: center]Video[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2018[/TD] [TD]High[/TD] [TD]55[/TD] [TD]45: Utility Player[/TD] [TD]No[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: tool, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Tool[/TD] [TD=class: mid1, align: center]Future Grade[/TD] [TD]Report[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hit[/TD] [TD=class: mid, align: center]55[/TD] [TD]Switch-hitter, hits from a tall, even stance, leg kick from both sides; above-average bat speed, good hands, slightly uphill bat path, fair loft; hand path gets longer from the RH side, can get big with swings from the left side and sell out for power; aggressive, attacks early, hunts fastballs[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Power[/TD] [TD=class: mid, align: center]40[/TD] [TD]Below-average raw, lacks present physicality to drive the ball; generates some loft on balls with some present strength, modest projection for additional power down the road; in-game power should play near full utility[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Baserunning/Speed[/TD] [TD=class: mid, align: center]50[/TD] [TD]Average runner, 4.32 home-to-first from right side, 4.21 from left[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Glove[/TD] [TD=class: mid, align: center]50[/TD] [TD]Lacks body control, struggles with backhand at present, tries to circle balls to his right; quality reads, plays hops well, solid range in both directions, plays above speed; fair hands[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arm[/TD] [TD=class: mid, align: center]60[/TD] [TD]Plus arm strength, throws have good carry and strength; accuracy should improve, raw game speed, present mistakes from rushing[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=class: overall, width: 100%] [TR=class: header] [TD]Overall[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Urena has a major-league floor as a utility player due to a plus arm that will play all over the field and enough feel to hit to warrant regular at-bats. He is getting better at the plate and has shown similar progress defensively as the year has gone on, though there's still a long way to go if he's going to develop into an everyday player. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

Hey min, I'll throw this week to you if you throw me the week in BORED. Deal?

I gave him Martes (NA) plus his choice of two of Verdugo, SRF, and Hader. It was a solid prospect return, and if I weren't a full-on win now team, probably wouldnt have done it.

Hader too

Beyond retarded. I can't even.

It was like Martes & Verdugo for Bart & Trumbo or something. I really don't care about the future, it's probably my last hurrah in that league.

Sorry bro, I just traded him in a deal for Trumbo and Bartolo. He's turned it around nicely tho.

What on earth

Yeah, like anyone would walk away from $100M.

I remember a lot of people hating on the Devon Travis pick, but it doesn't look too bad right now.

I very much doubt that the weight wasn't a factor. More weight equals more torque on his spine with every swing.

I mean, at least you didn't draft Byron Buxton ahead of all those guys and more.

I'm just a really vindictive person.

Ouch, could have had Longoria, Kipnis, Blackmon, Wil Myers, Brandon Belt. I definitely wish I took Brandon Belt instead of Sonny Gray.

Not really that surprising, considering he just had his second spinal surgery in 3 years and is 32 and obese. Interesting to see whether he is retiring or being released, Texas is still on the hook for 4 more years of salary (minus what Detroit is paying).

****firm

TBH I would probably cut both if I had anything else.

I guess we could just swap the prospects.

We can safely assume Boxy will vogt for Benintendi.

See GD, I tolds ya the league would be unanimously against it.

Me too, it's the perfect opportunity for sabotage.

Even if I were in last place and decided to do a total teardown, I wouldn't trade Freeman. He's good, he's still young, that's a guy you build around.

Some other comps for Benintendi: Dexter Fowler Johnny Damon (with less SB) A.J. Pollock Christian Yelich If you're expecting a 30/30 guy with .900 OPS every year, you're gonna be disappointed. It's going to be mostly AVG and 2Bs.