NBA Thread

[eastcoastjaysfan]

It's early but trading Vasquez and letting Lou walk look to be the right moves. Vasquez shooting 19% overall and 7.7% from 3. Lou is just chucking up everything as per usual.

 

Would much prefer the defensive presence of Joseph over the flashier offensive games of those two.

[burlingtonbandit]

I really like JV's game so far. Still has his weaknesses but he seems like a force in the post.

[jays_fever]

Dont miss Grevious one bit, but I'd rather have Williams on this team over Ross.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

Dont miss Grevious one bit, but I'd rather have Williams on this team over Ross.

 

Lou is a better offensive player than Ross but he just kills the ball movement so much. His chucking became contagious last year. Plus he has zero defensive ability. I'd take Ross.

[eastcoastjaysfan]

I really like JV's game so far. Still has his weaknesses but he seems like a force in the post.

 

JV is a complete stud. He had so many things going against him last year, namely:

 

-Horrible perimeter defense from Lou/GV/Ross always forced him to step up which would inevitably leave him out of position or forced to take a stupid foul.. He developed a reputation of being a poor defender because of this IMO

-GV and Lou would almost never give him the ball. The only guy who would pass to him consistently was Lowry

 

The guy has great post moves and still moves well despite being the weight gain. I can see him averaging 18/10 this year.

[burlingtonbandit]

JV is a complete stud. He had so many things going against him last year, namely:

 

-Horrible perimeter defense from Lou/GV/Ross always forced him to step up which would inevitably leave him out of position or forced to take a stupid foul.. He developed a reputation of being a poor defender because of this IMO

-GV and Lou would almost never give him the ball. The only guy who would pass to him consistently was Lowry

 

The guy has great post moves and still moves well despite being the weight gain. I can see him averaging 18/10 this year.

 

Yeah he's been impressive. Still has to work on a few things but he's still young for a big man. I think his biggest weaknesses are his passing/awareness on offensive end and defensive end.

[Travis_Snider]

Jonas is a star. Few years from now a bit stronger and better footwork he can easily be a 20/10 guy.

[burlingtonbandit]

Jonas is a star. Few years from now a bit stronger and better footwork he can easily be a 20/10 guy.

 

Aren't we past the stage of evaluating a player based on point and rebound totals?

[Swervin81]

JV's PER is once again around 20, his TS% at 64%, and even 0.5 win shares already. Just keeps improving.

 

He pretty much is already a stud.

[GD]

You already kind of have to rank him up in that non-superstar (non-DMC/Davis) tier of centers. Probably at the bottom, but without looking at the stats at all and completely off hand, he's probably slowly ascending the tier of guys like Vucevic, Drummond, Gasol, etc. Not quite there but he's getting there. He's a stud.

[Travis_Snider]

Aren't we past the stage of evaluating a player based on point and rebound totals?

 

You can evaluate as you wish.

[dineke]

I'd take Jonas over Vucevic. Vucevic is probably an even worse defender than JV.

[GD]

I'd take Jonas over Vucevic. Vucevic is probably an even worse defender than JV.

 

It depends on personal preference imo. Vucevic has the capability to blow up for a ridiculous game or have a s***** game whereas JV is one of the more consistent young centers I've seen. Personally I prefer the highs and lows but there's totally an argument for either.

[burlingtonbandit]

You can evaluate as you wish.

 

Sure but evaluating a player by points and rebounds is like evaluating a player based on Batting Average and RBIs. There are stats that give a better story on how good that player is.

[dineke]

Speaking of centers, if only we kept Hassan GOATside. Dude's a beast.

[burlingtonbandit]

Really wish Scola would stop with the long 2s. Just set up at the 3 point line. Its like 3 feet farther from where he's currently taking thee jump shots.

[Abomination]

This might be a really long game.

[Swervin81]

Speaking of centers, if only we kept Hassan GOATside. Dude's a beast.

 

Whiteside looked so lanky and unpolished in summer league. I'd even say he looked like total s*** in the SL with us. Other than being an athletic big, I saw no polish or skills in his game.

 

He seems to just finally have figured it out. Has a much more refined game, his biggest problem is just immaturity now.

[burlingtonbandit]

This might be a really long game.

 

Fully expected them to lose by double digits with the B2B but its certainly ugly so far. Offence has looked like a disaster in both shot selection and execution.

[GD]

Speaking of centers, if only we kept Hassan GOATside. Dude's a beast.

 

That's a great what if but I wouldn't criticize management like Jays/Gomes. He was s*** while he was here lol

[GD]

Yeah anything that happens this game is gravy

[dineke]

That's a great what if but I wouldn't criticize management like Jays/Gomes. He was s*** while he was here lol

 

I will still blame BC for Andre Drummond though. f*** Terrence Ross.

[Trouba95]

Offence is flat.

[Travis_Snider]

still think this will end a close game

[dineke]

If Biyombo defended himself he would score -20 points.

[Travis_Snider]

they have to stop feeding biyombo so much lol

[GD]

I will still blame BC for Andre Drummond though. f*** Terrence Ross.

 

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[Abomination]

they have to stop feeding biyombo so much lol

 

He's drawing a lot of fouls right now. Probably not a bad approach.

[Travis_Snider]

He's drawing a lot of fouls right now. Probably not a bad approach.

 

he cant shoot ft's though.

[Travis_Snider]

great finish to the half