its not about hate prior. do I like him as a player? no. do I respect him as a player? yes. he has great skills. but to constantly defend him when he is wrong, don't cut it. in this specific case, he was totally intending on hurting him. these guys are pros, you got dinged, it's over. you want respect give respect. my question is, and be objective, do you think he was going to throw a punch? I think he was. Would odor get 8 games if he missed with his punch? not likely. I'm not saying odor should get less, I am saying it took 2 to tango here, he is not totally innocent. that's all I am saying.