King

It's barely been a year. Atkins was named GM in December '15. After AA gutted the system going all in for a playoff push while he knew wouldn't be with the organization longer than the end of the season. They've only had one draft in which the college players drafted have yet to play above Lansing.. edit: And the team has graduated guys like Travis, Stroman, Sanchez, Osuna, Pillar all in the past 2 years.

Do NOT Delete!!

Reported

6k in 9pa to start the year

The draft (and partially IFA system) is limited by having max slot bonuses.. thats not an excuse. It doesn't work like that.

I share an account with Boxy and Speedy.

I believed.

Ryan Dull has got this

Hands up if you had Clayton Richard with the CGSO tonight.

God damnit.

Surprised Boxy fell into the Grant Trap.

You know he struckout 17 in a row to end spring training? Talk about making an impression.

It's nice to see that Grant is in midseason form.

Kendall Graveman is throwing an Aaron Sanchez sinker http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/im-not-done-selling-you-on-kendall-graveman/

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http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/sports/2017/04/04/teenage-son-ex-major-leaguer-eyes-success-lugnuts/99989534/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Bichette article from Lansing State Journal, not very informative but its something

There are a few things in the article that are factually incorrect but it's hard to fault him for it.

And on queue, here is the Fangraphs article http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kendall-graveman-and-the-rare-double-spike/

Greene, McGuire and Tellez are the only real standouts 2017 First Time Eligible Players [TABLE=class: sbn-data-table, width: 654] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl24, width: 145]Name[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 47]Pos.[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 75]DOB[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 33]Age[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 96]Acquired[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 75]Bonus[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 61]2016[/TD] [TD=class: xl25, width: 61]2015[/TD] [TD=class: xl26, width: 61]2014[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Wilfri Aleton[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]11/18/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]20[/TD] [TD]2012 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$100,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Aaron Attaway[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]SS[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]3/6/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (20)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Andrew Case[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]1/6/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2013 NDFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Austin Davis[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]OF[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/26/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2014 NDFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Denis Diaz[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]11/20/1994[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$20,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Conor Fisk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/4/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (24)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Antony Fuentes[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]OF[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]9/26/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Conner Greene[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/4/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (7)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$100,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+/AA[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+/AA[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Yeltsin Gudino[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]SS[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]1/17/1997[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]19[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$1,290,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Gunnar Heidt[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]2B[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]9/12/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (13)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$100,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-/Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Yonardo Herdenez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]9/20/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2012 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$283,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Juliandry Higuera[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]9/6/1994[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]22[/TD] [TD]2012 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk/A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Clinton Hollon[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]12/24/1994[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (2)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$467,280[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Suspend[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Injured[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Grayson Huffman[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]5/6/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (6)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$225,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Dusty Isaacs[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]8/7/1991[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]25[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (18)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Danny Jansen[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]C[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/15/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (16)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Kelyn Jose[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]5/19/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$150,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Bryan Lizardo[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]3B[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]7/26/1997[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]19[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$250,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Ryan McBroom[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]1B[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/9/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (15)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+/AA[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Reese McGuire[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]C[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]3/2/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2016 Trade[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$2,369,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]AA[/TD] [TD=class: xl27][/TD] [TD=class: xl29][/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Ryan Metzler[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]2B[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]3/20/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (9)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$10,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Patrick Murphy[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]6/10/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (3)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$500,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Injured[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Jose Nova[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/6/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Juan Nunez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]1/23/1996[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]20[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Injured[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Max Pentecost[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]C[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]3/10/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (1)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$2,888,300[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Injured[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-/Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Dalton Rodriguez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]8/20/1996[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]20[/TD] [TD]2012 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Freddy Rodriguez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]CF[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]11/15/1996[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]19[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$500,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Jordan Romano[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]4/21/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (10)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$25,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Injured[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Jairo Rosario[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]10/21/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]23[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Luis Sanchez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]2/20/1994[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]22[/TD] [TD]2014 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Jesus Severino[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]SS[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]6/11/1997[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]19[/TD] [TD]2013 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$400,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Rk/DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]DSL[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Justin Shafer[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]9/18/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 Draft (8)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$125,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Evan Smith[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]LHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]8/17/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (4)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$350,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Starlyn Suriel[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]11/17/1993[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]22[/TD] [TD]2014 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]A/A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Rowdy Tellez[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]1B[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]3/16/1995[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2013 Draft (30)[/TD] [TD=class: xl38]$850,000[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]AA[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A/A+[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk/A[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl28]Ruben Ventura[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]12/8/1994[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]21[/TD] [TD]2014 IFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]FRk[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]DSL[/TD] [TD=class: xl29][/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-even] [TD=class: xl28]Jon Wandling[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]RHP[/TD] [TD=class: xl34]5/28/1992[/TD] [TD=class: xl37]24[/TD] [TD]2014 NDFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl38][/TD] [TD=class: xl27]Injured[/TD] [TD=class: xl27]A-/A[/TD] [TD=class: xl29]Rk/A-[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: ui-state-odd] [TD=class: xl30]Brett Wellman[/TD] [TD=class: xl31]C[/TD] [TD=class: xl35]11/22/1991[/TD] [TD=class: xl36]24[/TD] [TD=class: xl32]2014 NDFA[/TD] [TD=class: xl39][/TD] [TD=class: xl31]A-/Rk[/TD] [TD=class: xl31]Rk/A-[/TD] [TD=class: xl33]Rk [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]

The Dodgers are a regular playoff contender and have one of the deepest farm systems in baseball, and the Cubs have a fairly deep system too. There's a world in which teams can have a good farm system and be a playoff team... Boston had/has an insanely deep farm system over the past 2 years. AA trading near every prospect in the system is what stunted the team. But to your point, that's how you end up with Donaldson, Tulo etc.

Alford could be up in September

SRF? Tellez Urena Gurriel McGuire Ramirez Greene All guys I wouldn't be surprised if they got MLB service time this year? Harris or Rios if they peform above expectations

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/top-17-prospects-toronto-blue-jays/

He's starting for Oakland right now. Last year he had an avg FB velo of 91.3...

So Kendall Graveman is everyones pick for breakout ace? Guy is sitting 95-97 with his fastball now, been up to 98/99.