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Besides who myself and King pointed out, who else will make the majors from that list?

You're right, his best talent was assembling a bullpen.

Technically he's right even though we know AA pursued that Bautista trade and Encarnacion was pushed on him for the Scott Rolen trade

Surprisingly good cheap draft by J.P. Hutch was a major get and Marisnick might have a career as a fourth outfielder at the very least.

Not with the criteria of just making to the mlb.

But he'll make it to the mlb I believe, as starter (spot or otherwise). I define success as making to the mlb.

9 guys from this draft made it to the mlb. Wow when I looked I assumed one or two would make it but 9! nope.

Chad Jenkins P R / R 6' 4" 235 12/22/1987 1 20 08/15/2009 James Paxton P L / L 6' 4" 220 11/06/1988 CA 37 Unsigned Jake Eliopoulos P L / L 6' 3" 185 05/25/1991 2 68 Unsigned Jake Barrett P R / R 6' 3" 230 07/22/1991 3 99 Unsigned Jake Marisnick CF R / R 6' 4" 225 03/30/1991 3 104 08/17/2009 Ryan Goins SS L / R 5' 10" 185 02/13/1988 4 130 07/01/2009 Ryan Schimpf 2B L / R 5' 9" 190 04/11/1988 5 160 07/27/2009 K.C. Hobson RF L / L 6' 2" 205 08/22/1990 6 190 08/17/2009 Egan Smith P L / L 6' 5" 200 03/16/1989 7 220 06/14/2009 Brian Slover P R / R 6' 3" 230 06/10/1988 8 250 07/20/2009 Aaron Loup P L / L 5' 11" 205 12/19/1987 9 280 Unsigned Yan Gomes C R / R 6' 2" 215 07/19/1987 10 310 06/18/2009 Sean Ochinko C R / R 5' 11" 205 10/21/1987 11 340 07/07/2009 Bryson Namba 3B R / R 6' 2" 210 01/31/1991 12 370 Unsigned Matthew Morgal P R / R 6' 5" 220 09/18/1986 13 400 06/14/2009 Lance Durham 1B L / R 5' 11" 210 02/20/1988 14 430 06/14/2009 Drew Hutchison P L / R 6' 3" 195 08/22/1990 15 460 Unsigned Dave Sever P R / R 6' 4" 195 08/29/1986 16 490 06/14/2009 Steve Turnbull P R / R 6' 3" 215 11/25/1986 17 520 06/15/2009 Daniel Webb P R / R 6' 3" 215 08/18/1989 18 550 Unsigned Ryan Tepera P R / R 6' 1" 190 11/03/1987 19 580 07/05/2009 Kevin Nolan SS R / R 6' 2" 205 12/13/1987 20 610 06/15/2009 Kurt Giller P L / R 6' 2" 215 02/04/1991 21 640 Unsigned Matt Fields P R / R 6' 3" 190 07/10/1986 22 670 06/15/2009 Brad Glenn OF R / R 6' 2" 220 04/02/1987 23 700 06/14/2009 Matt Nuzzo SS R / R 6' 0" 205 03/18/1987 24 730 06/15/2009 Sam Strickland P L / L 6' 5" 210 06/09/1987 25 760 06/14/2009 Lance Loftin P R / R 6' 0" 210 03/03/1986 26 790 06/14/2009 Brian Justice P R / R 6' 3" 195 10/20/1985 27 820 06/15/2009 Zach Outman P R / R 6' 2" 180 12/29/1987 28 850 06/15/2009 Zach Anderson P R / R 6' 0" 195 10/20/1986 29 880 06/15/2009 Timothy McDonald OF R / R 6' 3" 215 01/26/1991 30 910 Unsigned Jack Murphy C S / R 6' 4" 235 04/06/1988 31 940 06/15/2009 Ryan Shopshire P R / R 6' 5" 200 11/08/1985 32 970 06/15/2009 Robert Benincasa P R / R 6' 2" 180 09/05/1990 33 1000 Unsigned Jonathan Fernandez SS S / R 6' 0" 175 09/17/1987 34 1030 06/14/2009 Evan Teague P L / L 6' 2" 212 02/04/1987 35 1060 06/15/2009 Alex Pepe P L / L 6' 1" 190 04/14/1987 36 1090 06/14/2009 Shawn Griffith P R / R 5' 10" 180 05/24/1987 37 1120 06/15/2009 Yudelmis Hernandez 1B R / R 6' 4" 205 05/18/1987 38 1150 06/14/2009 Josh Lucas P R / R 6' 6" 185 11/05/1990 39 1180 Unsigned Jonathan Gilbert OF R / L 6' 1" 195 03/19/1990 40 1210 Unsigned Zach Kirksey LF L / R 6' 1" 210 02/17/1989 41 1240 Unsigned Mike Reeves C L / R 6' 2" 195 09/16/1990 42 1270 Unsigned Maxx Tissenbaum SS L / R 5' 10" 185 07/25/1991 43 1300 Unsigned Nick Wagner OF R / R 6' 3" 210 10/26/1990 44 1330 Unsigned Brandon Kaye P R / R 6' 4" 210 08/16/1988 45 1360 Unsigned Carlos Castro 3B R / R 6' 3" 200 01/13/1989 46 1390 Unsigned John Rigg OF L / L 5' 11" 170 10/18/1988 47 1420 Unsigned Jeff Gibbs P R / R 6' 4" 185 04/23/1991 48 1450 Unsigned Tommy Collier P R / R 6' 2" 205 12/03/1989 49 1480 Unsigned Robert Seifrit P R / R 6' 2" 185 12/06/1990 50 1510 Unsigned

Successes- Sanchez, Pompey, Sydergaard, Nicolino, Bryant, Nolin, Dyson. Failures- Everyone else. Do you believe that group of players that are successes are enough to make this draft an overall success? Edit: Bolded names have made their mlb debuts

Deck McGuire RHP R / R 6' 6" 220 06/23/1989 1 11 08/16/2010 Aaron Sanchez RHP R / R 6' 4" 200 07/01/1992 CA 34 06/15/2010 Noah Syndergaard RHP L / R 6' 6" 240 08/29/1992 CA 38 06/15/2010 Asher Wojciechowski RHP R / R 6' 4" 240 12/21/1988 CA 41 06/16/2010 Griffin Murphy LHP R / L 6' 3" 230 01/16/1991 2 61 08/16/2010 Kellen Sweeney 3B L / R 6' 0" 180 09/14/1991 2 69 07/26/2010 Justin Nicolino LHP L / L 6' 3" 190 11/22/1991 2 80 08/09/2010 Chris Hawkins SS L / R 6' 2" 195 08/17/1991 3 93 06/15/2010 Marcus Knecht LF R / R 6' 1" 200 06/21/1990 CB 113 06/15/2010 Sam Dyson RHP R / R 6' 1" 205 05/07/1988 4 126 08/16/2010 Dickie Joe Thon SS R / R 6' 2" 185 11/16/1991 5 156 08/16/2010 Sean Nolin LHP L / L 6' 4" 230 12/26/1989 6 186 07/23/2010 Mitchell Taylor LHP L / L 6' 0" 155 05/11/1992 7 216 08/09/2010 Logan Ehlers LHP L / L 6' 1" 190 10/30/1991 8 246 Unsigned Brandon Mims 2B S / R 5' 11" 180 06/18/1992 9 276 08/09/2010 Tyler Shreve RHP R / R 6' 4" 215 09/15/1991 10 306 Unsigned Shane Opitz SS L / R 6' 1" 180 01/10/1992 11 336 07/31/2010 Omar Cotto CF S / R 5' 11" 180 02/28/1992 12 366 Unsigned Tyler Painton LHP L / L 6' 5" 195 02/20/1992 13 396 Unsigned Dayton Marze RHP R / R 6' 2" 185 01/01/1989 14 426 06/17/2010 Zak Adams LHP L / L 6' 2" 190 03/19/1992 15 456 08/16/2010 Dalton Pompey CF S / R 6' 2" 195 12/11/1992 16 486 06/17/2010 Myles Jaye RHP S / R 6' 3" 170 12/28/1991 17 516 08/16/2010 Kris Bryant 3B R / R 6' 5" 215 01/04/1992 18 546 Unsigned Travis Garrett RHP R / R 5' 11" 205 10/27/1989 19 576 06/15/2010 Art Charles LHP L / L 6' 6" 220 11/10/1990 20 606 07/06/2010 Chris Marlowe RHP R / R 6' 0" 175 10/26/1989 21 636 Unsigned Aaron Westlake LF L / R 6' 4" 235 12/27/1988 22 666 Unsigned Angel Gomez RF S / R 6' 2" 180 01/12/1992 23 696 06/15/2010 Ronnie Melendez CF R / R 5' 10" 170 09/29/1989 24 726 06/15/2010 Brando Tessar RHP R / R 6' 1" 190 05/13/1991 25 756 Unsigned Jay Johnson LHP R / L 6' 2" 210 12/21/1989 26 786 Unsigned Eric Arce C L / R 5' 9" 205 11/29/1991 27 816 Unsigned Adaric Kelly RHP R / R 5' 10" 180 12/01/1992 28 846 Unsigned Jonathan Jones RF R / R 5' 11" 185 08/02/1989 29 876 06/20/2010 Steve McQuail 2B R / R 6' 2" 225 06/10/1989 30 906 06/15/2010 Luis Benitez RHP S / R 6' 3" 195 05/24/1992 31 936 Unsigned Andy Fermin 2B L / R 6' 0" 180 07/27/1989 32 966 06/15/2010 Melvin Garcia OF R / R 6' 0" 175 09/17/1991 33 996 06/30/2010 Tyler Powell RHP R / R 6' 4" 210 02/16/1989 34 1026 06/15/2010 Danny Barnes RHP L / R 6' 1" 195 10/21/1989 35 1056 06/15/2010 David Whitehead RHP R / R 6' 4" 215 04/21/1992 36 1086 Unsigned Chad Green RHP L / R 6' 3" 210 05/24/1991 37 1116 Unsigned Pierce Rankin LF R / R 6' 1" 190 04/26/1989 38 1146 06/20/2010 Nick Vander Tuig RHP R / R 6' 3" 190 12/09/1991 39 1176 Unsigned Brandon Berl RHP R / R 6' 0" 185 04/09/1988 40 1206 06/15/2010 Seth Conner IF R / R 6' 2" 205 01/29/1992 41 1236 Unsigned Drew Permison RHP R / R 5' 10" 170 02/24/1989 42 1266 06/15/2010 Ron Schreurs LHP L / L 6' 6" 205 07/14/1992 43 1296 Unsigned Mott Hyde 2B R / R 5' 10" 190 03/10/1992 44 1326 Unsigned Philip Diedrick LF L / R 6' 1" 210 09/17/1992 45 1356 Unsigned Connor Smith RHP R / R 6' 2" 210 06/12/1992 46 1386 Unsigned Gabriel Romero RHP R / R 5' 10" 150 11/13/1992 47 1416 Unsigned Nick Studer C R / R 6' 3" 225 10/23/1992 48 1446 Unsigned Matt Abraham 2B R / R 5' 8" 165 01/27/1987 49 1476 06/15/2010 Kelly Norris-Jones C R / R 5' 11" 175 03/17/1992 50 1506 Unsigned

Low A really? They only own one minor league affiliate which is Dunedin. Calm down on the drama.

Thats a waste, positional flexibility is his best attribute

Maybe not converting, just another position he's learning?

Except he was 32 when he signed coming off a 82 wRC+, 0.8 war season. Anyways Maicer izturis isn't the problem, the problem is AA's decision making when it comes to the free agent market. Poor and indecisive, only one that worked out is Melky. I give him credit for Anibal Sanchez and Ervin Santana pursuits which ended badly (due to the players) but those are negated by the Darvish and Chapman fiascoes.

I'm with you, I don't understand how you give a guy (just a "guy", nothing special) a three year deal. Yet he refuses to go for Darvish or Chapman. He needs to go get John Hart as an adviser.

Yet he had a bad season. Not exactly a glowing recommendation. Honestly what percentage of players actually understand any of that stuff even if they hired a analyst to break their game down? I say less then 10%. Majority do not care.

Because you don't need to delve deep into statistics to better one's career (Roy Halladay). Its nice when the stats validate your hard work but one shouldn't necessarily look to stats on how to improve your results. I highly doubt Scherzer did anything but look at them superficially.

So I'm assuming your reasoning is because you're looking to upgrade the 2015 roster to a playoff contender? Pompey could reasonably tilt that trade in favor to A's as soon next year if it were to happen. I don't like that at all regardless of the general distrust of young arms.

Labourt has a potential plus slider, guess they must've caught him on an offnight

Shut up Moogy, you've been overindulged for way too long

I thought JPR made a lot of shrewd free agent pickups when given the money. BJ Ryan just didn't work but his first year was spectacular

Bautista is old, slow and has bad range but I would rather him in the outfield then Melky. Don't give me a "DAT ARM" counterargument

No one will offer Janssen 3/30.

Mods please change to LOL @ BACONPANCAKES

Lol at janssen being rarely hurt. His shoulder barks up just before the season starts every year