The conversation was about what makes a good #2 hitter. He backed up given statistical proof that a good #2 hitter should be just that, a good hitter. He then backed that up by stating that Kawasaki is not a good hitter, and certainly not a top 3 hitter in this Blue Jays roster. Having a good eye does not automatically make one a good hitter, there are multiple factors/skills, which Kawasaki (even though he's our best 2B option within the organization) does not possess.