GeorgiaPeach

I agree. But the morons easily have the numbers.

We still have the off season.

What names would you have pushed for?

Can you imagine if we kept Happ and he dominated like 6 or 7 of his next starts?

What exactly does keeping Happ do for the next 2 months?

If Team FO's listened to the fanbase, every team would be f***ing garbage

Had TJS and was recovering.

It's weird how society throws around the "rehabilitation" term for people doing prison time, but when the person gets out, no one wants to be around them. So what type of work are these rehabilitated members of society supposed to do? Society talking out of both sides of it's mouth. Another odd situation how Yunel Escobar vilified for his eye black incident in where the gay community forced Toronto to move on from him. But Toronto fans making excuses in Osuna laying a hand on a woman and him sticking around or being given a second chance. Since when is saying something worse than assaulting someone?

Why's that? If the police get called to a domestic in Ontario. If it's the guy he always gets arrested. If it's the female there's a chance she doesn't.

What teams are you expecting to contend with

They seemed to know what they were doing in Cleveland.

When does it end? A HR hit on a line in to the bleachers could be travelling 80-90 mph. If a kid dies sitting in the bleachers does the whole field get enclosed? I certainly hope not.

Definitely headed in the right direction. And with Shapiro's track record on display in Cleveland I have hope.

I listen to them for entertainment purposes.

We're a WC team due to the mediocrity of the rest of the AL. We're closer on paper talent wise to the bad teams in the AL than we are to the best teams. That's not saying much.

You guys are missing my point. Alex did what he did. It's great that he got the Jays to the playoffs. But for fans to slag the FO now or last year when the writing was on the wall of mediocrity setting in is just plain dumb. The prospects we could've traded for Stanton would've left us barren, worst in baseball maybe with a team littered with guys in their early to mid 30's. So what happens in a couple years with no farm, and Stanton flanked by mediocre pick ups? More whining.

I'm not denying any of this. But when people come here and complain that the FO didn't trade for Stanton what is the FO supposed to do to appease meatheads like that?

That wasn't the notion. The notion was the team going in to 2015 & 2016 was looking real good, with no farm. So beyond 2016 fans can't be like "f*** the FO because the Yankees traded scraps for Stanton and our best move is trading for Solarte." The team was close to maxed out for big additions last year. And trading any prospects worthwhile for Stanton or some other mind altering player puts us back to not having a farm again.

So do I. But you can't be like "yay the Jays are amazing in 2015 & 2016" and then s*** on the FO in the next breath because you (wink) never saw the collapse coming in 2017 and beyond.

The window Alex created was 2 years tops and after that a major overhaul was needed and we had a very bad farm. So 2015 & 2016 happened with playoff berths and that was it for me. I didn't expect the 2017 Jays to be anything. And that's why I also included 2017 in the mix along with this year and likely next. Only optimistic fans were fooling themselves thinking the Jays had a chance last year. Looking at 2018 the Yankees 25 man blows our doors off. They have a superior farm, more financial resources, you want me to continue? The Jays were very close to the oldest team in baseball in 2017 if not the oldest. Bautista was 37 last year, Morales, Martin, Pearce 34, Tulo & Donaldson early 30's, Estrada 33. Both Tulo & Martin broken and on contracts close to or eclipsing 20m. So we have a couple years of trying to stay afloat and maybe be a fringe WC hopeful because of the divide between the elite teams in the AL and s*** teams. And tbh the Yankees have the money to make mistakes and run the way they ran for a couple years. The Jays can't be anchored down to dumb contracts, the margin for error is razor thin for the Jays. Especially with some of the powerhouse organizations like the Dodgers, Yanks, Houston, Cubs, Cards.

I agree. And it's cyclical based on ownership and the FO of whatever team you're looking at. But shrewd decisions that lengthen the window by building the farm back up, but strengthening the 25 man simultaneously is what I like to see.

To be fair Anthopoulos set the team up to be like the Yankees were a couple years back, when the Jays fanbase was laughing at their bloated payroll, old, broken team. Whoever didn't see what happened to the Jays in 2017 and beyond coming, is kidding themselves.

Nice move to shore up the MIF

Sixto Sanchez, Crawford & Kingery

Chris Gimenez